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The OS Formally Known as Longhorn

Windows Vista vertical Now that Vista (man, I’m having a hard time saying the new name after all these years of Longhorn) is in beta, it’s time to start seriously digging into it.  This post is just a very high level look/first impressions, and kicks off a new post category devoted to the topic.  I’ll dive more in depth in future posts.

First impressions aren’t that good actually; I do realize this is a beta and that at this point it’s only 1/3 feature complete (which kind of negates the whole point of being a beta IMO… .Net beta 1 was much more complete than vista beta 1…but that’s another topic).  Installation on a very fast machine took about an hour and a half; the second part of the installation after the reboot was gruesome at best…you get to stare at a screen with a green status bar that rolls on seemingly forever and an hourglass icon, no visual/text indicators as to what’s really going on.  It does finally get past this stage though.  The plus side of the installer is that it’s fully graphical and not text based.  I am sure the installer will get cleaned up in future betas/RC’s.

I won’t rehash what can be found in countless other blogs about what’s there/what isn’t at this point…I actually didn’t get too far after installation anyways because it absolutely refuses to recognize any NIC I throw at it correctly.  With one it reports a bad gateway address (which isn’t the case), with another it reports that it’s not connected to the modem (which of course it is)…ad nauseam.  I’ve seen other reports of similar issues.  What’s curious is that looking at the NIC properties, I see that Client for Microsoft Networks isn’t installed (a nice shiny yellow question mark is beside it); clicking install generates an error, something to the effect of “the necessary files could not be found”…this even with the Vista install disc in the drive.  There is no add/remove Windows components functionality either (graphically speaking at least…Bob thinks I should be able to do this via the command line, haven’t tried it yet).  I got pretty frustrated at this point and left it alone.

As far as the GUI goes, it looks great and is very snappy.  The window animations are a blatant ripoff from OSX (though not nearly as fluid…I know this will change in beta 2); that being said the new icons are nice and shiny, resizing them (in folder view) via the slider is kinda cool (though I don’t really see the point).  The icons actually displaying what is in them is pretty slick, but I don’t know how necessary this really is…nothing more than eye candy IMO.  And then there’s the transparency that everyone has been talking about.  I have a love/hate relationship with it at this point…it looks great, but functionally speaking is actually quite annoying once you get multiple windows open (it’s hard to explain, anyone who is test driving the beta should know what I’m talking about); when they overlap it’s confusing which title/menu bar you’re actually using.  I’m sure after time I’d get used to it (and I’m sure this is configurable).  That’s as far as I made it; would love to comment on IE7 but with no internet access…well, kinda hard to test a web browser without some pages to hit.

I hope as more people test (and write about) Vista that I can get the NIC issue sorted out.  As stated above I’ll do some more thorough under the hood looking around soon.  It should be noted this was all with the i386 codebase; I’m gonna install the x64 version over the weekend and see if the NIC issues persist.  At this point I give it a “meh.”

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Mike said:

Last Thursday I set my laptop to download the 2.42GB ISO image and Friday installed on a Dell GX280. Not a whole lot new since the last build I saw, but I think it's more responsive. This could just be because of the machine I installed on (can't remember what I used for past builds). Quite a bit of functionality isn't there yet like you observed. In fact, as I sit here typing, I'm realizing that I don't have much to add yet. I was quite busy at the office and didn't have time to play near as much as I had hoped. I left feeling frustrated that none of my drivers were installing - to include my NIC. I hope that I can dedicate some time to it next week and I'll have something substantial to post. Mike
August 1, 2005 5:34 AM
 

Jayson Knight said:

Yeah, I don't know WTF is going on w/ all the NIC issues; from the posts I've seen this seems to be the number 1 issue. I bought some generic POS dlink cards today and plan on giving them a whirl later on tonight...if it doesn't pick it up I'll have to hold out for later builds.
August 1, 2005 5:59 AM
 

TristanK said:

(Much clapping at the post title. Kudos.)
August 1, 2005 6:00 AM
 

Mike said:

Yeah, I bought a little Linksys NIC to try out myself.
August 1, 2005 7:17 AM
 

Mat Hall said:

I've been using it for a couple of days, and apart from a bit of trouble getting it to recognise my SATA controller and some minor stability issues (50/50 chance of a crash when I log off) it's actually working surprisingly well. I had no problem with my NIC -- it's an cruddy on-board VIA chipset based card, but it worked fine "out of the box", but I am having trouble with DVD burning -- the machine recognises blank disks fine (bringing up the relevant Autoplay dialog), but when it comes down to the actual burning it complains that the disk isn't writable. I've tried Nero 6 and the built-in wizard, but they both have the same problem; I suspect it's a driver problem again, but it's hard to be sure. I'm working on an in-depth dissection of it, mainly from an end-user's "what's new in the UI" perspective, although I also intend trying VS.NET 2005 beta 2 on it. In the interim I've posted some shiny pictures here, as I can't get enough of that eye-candy! http://dashslot.co.uk/modules/news/article.php?storyid=172
August 1, 2005 11:52 PM
 

Jacob said:

"meh" is pretty much the death review as far as I'm concerned. Like Howard Stern or The Hummer H2, MSFT's bread and butter is its ability to make people care one way or the other, either for or against them. The day people say "meh" is the day they become IBM.
August 3, 2005 8:22 AM
 

Jayson Knight said:

Well, it should be noted that this was basically just a developer release with no (what most end users would consider) real functionality built in (add/remove windows components isn't even enabled for fuck's sake). I've been using it as my secondary desktop OS for a couple of days now...it's marginally usable, though nowhere near as much as XP beta 1 was. Drivers are very scarce, none of my XP drivers have installed correctly. Hopefully we'll be getting some beta drivers soon (ala ATI/nVidia). I'll post a full review soon...and then I'll format that drive and pretend beta 1 was never released.
August 3, 2005 8:52 AM

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Jayson Knight was clueless to the computer programming world until he took a C++ class in college. The rest is proverbial history. He has been building applications targeting the .Net framework for 7 years, focusing mainly on internet technologies and database driven web application development.

Most recently he left the world of Corporate IT to finish up his degree in Chemistry, with an eye on Medical School and an Anesthesiology residency program. Read this post for more information.

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