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Visual Studio 2005 Beta 2 Installation and First Thoughts

I finally got around to giving Visual Studio 2005 (beta 2) a test drive recently.  Whereas my meanderings with the beta 1 bits were downright hideous, this experience has been a complete 180 from that.  Installation was trouble free (and fast I might add…I’d estimate around half the time of Visual Studio 2003, and definitely much faster than beta 1 of VS2005; 20 minutes on a relatively fast machine).  Startup time is very snappy as well, again faster than VS2003…most impressive.

It doesn’t appear too much was added in this release (aside from massive performance boosts); refactoring looks almost feature complete (Java weenies and their IDE’s can stop laughing at us now), and the class designer looks more feature complete than in beta 1.  I still don’t like how ASP.NET applications run in a mini-browser (please give us a choice between using that and IIS…after 4+ years of IIS I’m just simply much more comfortable with it), and I still haven’t garnered an opionion on the multitude of new folders created for support files (and the underscores that seperate words in these folders is sooooo 20th century), though I do like the concept of the “code” folder in that multiple languages can be used for 1 assembly (i.e. C# for one class, VB for another class <<– in the same assembly.  Hopefully I’ll never have to use VB.NET ever again).  I have not given it a thorough beating yet, but it’s lookin’ really good.  I can’t wait for the RTM, and have pretty much decided that as of RC1 I’m making the switch from VS2003.  I’ll post more once I give beta 2 a serious run through.  I’m also in the process of playing around with the latest CTP bits of SQL 2005 (I will say this though, the new management tools look great; I’ve already made the switch from SQL2k Enterprise Manager to the SQL2k5 CTP Management Studio tool…much more intuitive than EM + QA).  This will be a great year for developer releases from MS methinks!


Posted Jul 09 2005, 02:14 PM by Jayson Knight

3 Comments

Keyvan Nayyeri wrote re: Visual Studio 2005 Beta 2 Installation and First Thoughts
on 07-10-2005 5:24 AM
My idea is that built in web server is just for special operation systems without IIS like Win XP Home edition (Many Laptops use it) I couldn't find any diffenrence beetween IIS and this Built in webserver. Now that you have it you can enjoy your life :) ;)
Jayson Knight wrote re: Visual Studio 2005 Beta 2 Installation and First Thoughts
on 07-10-2005 9:46 AM
I will agree that having a choice is a good thing (and yes, this does open up some doors for folks who don't have access to IIS). That being said, please don't give me a dumbed down version of IIS and expect it to be the same thing! How can I test IIS only things (like application pools) w/o IIS? What about stress loading an application and running profiling tools on it? From what I've seen of this "dumbed down" web server this isn't possible. All I'm saying is give me a choice...I paid good money for an OS w/ IIS in it (Win2k3 licenses don't come cheap), so let me use it if I'd like. Plus I like testing my web apps on a remote staging machine. So no, I'm not really gonna enjoy not having the option to use IIS, I really hope MS gives us this option rather than forcing us to use a stripped down web server.
Chris Kirby wrote Re: Visual Studio 2005 Beta 2 Installation and First Thoughts
on 07-11-2005 8:44 PM
I agree with you on the IIS issue and have actually done a few projects in beta 2 using iis on my local machine. To do so, in the new web site dialog, select http for the location and then type something like "http://localhost/testbeta2web" and it will create the site and use iis for debugging from then on. I too can't wait for an RC... perhaps at the PDC?

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